g888 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

its nice but a bit to short in reach (some moves) also some mistakes in the end (the stop) but nothing serious , try changing the rythem (slow fast ) not always fast fast ;-) greetz g

theladyjayde (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

As always this style is beatuiful to me.

MaBu888 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Shaolin is like the everflowing constructs of awareness... it flows like the tao.

MathewJoki (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

In the eyes of the Masters that tweak them, they are being improved... I'm not Shaolin Master, so I don't really think I could judge. :P

ZeroDavids7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

oh that kinda sucks.... but it is a good thing that the forms are being tweaked?? i mean not deformed like wushu, but little changes in i.e the hand movements and such. But are they improved??

MathewJoki (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Different Masters and different lineages tweak/have tweaked the various different forms to better suite what they believed to be the most effective/stylistic/aesthetically pleasing/etc. After centuries of this, there are a LOT of variations on a single form -- the original method most likely lost to in the evolution of the millenia-old art. Or at least that's my understanding of it...

ZeroDavids7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

but why do they look so differently, even though they have the same name and are traditional??

raven1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Shaolin has a really long history. I guess they created different forms.

ZeroDavids7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

but this kind of tong bei look very alike Da tong bei, how come? (its practicaly the same, only with minor some differences)

ZeroDavids7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

why is all traditional forms so different from eachother?