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Edward1589 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And are you suggesting that nationalism should prevail?
Riddle me this: how are we going to progress further if we don't share our ideas & cultural history/experience? Would you like 3rd WW in Europe today?
One thing the EU is doing is being secular, which is the most important thing since the freethinkers were born back in the mid-XVII century.
EU could be a 3rd Roman Empire, or Republic if you wish, instead of being 30 nationalistic states that believe in mumbo-jumbo.
NiceToMeetEU (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"The EU is an illegitimate supranational organisation... which most of European states keenly agreed to join", you should add ;-)
greetings
jiros00 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Anyone who cannot see how the EU progressively weakens democracy is a fool. The EU is an illegitimate supranational organisation. Barroso is a former communist so he probably doesn't care.
ragerancher (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Amazing how many people have read a small, unresearched piece and state it as a "fact" for or against the EU. Many complain about the EU being run by the unelected and then also complain about the Lisbon treaty, designed to take power from the unelected and transfer it to Parliament. Or maybe accusing the EU of being undemocratic when actually it was the choice of national governments, not the EU, whether to agree to treaties. Please, look at your arguments and stop contradicting yourselves!
ragerancher (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Better to swallow your pride and win than stick with your pride and lose (Napoleon anyone?). Winner make the world, losers don't.
ragerancher (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
There is a president. Currently it is Nicholas Sarcozy.
macfaggiani (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Making Europe as quickly as possible can be a mistake. I am pro-EU and currently attend a master in EU Studies. I think it would be fair that common people (yes, even my parents and grandma, for example) could understand better what's going on. Do you REALLY know what the Lisbon Treaty is about? Of course the member states have the responsability to get it closer to their citizens (well, the member-states parliaments ratified it after all! Only IE asked directly an opinion to its citizens)
cumbas (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
we must make our Europe of the people federal or confederal as quickly as possible
or
we will not exist any more in the world and we will be more and more the slaves of the other large blocks of the world !!
it's necessary that you understand and admit that European brothers...
the Union makes the force !!!
I'm a democrat PAN-EUROPEANIST and i'm proud of that !!
cumbas (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Im a democrat (partisan of the democracy I want to say), Im against racism and i hate the fuckers racist (they did not understand anything of the modern world these morons heinous with their IQ of fly), i love my Country (France) also
And im for A POWERFULL FEDERAL or CONFEDERAL EUROPEAN NATION
Im a PAN-EUROPEANIST and IM PROUD OF THAT !!
we can be all that at the same time, no problem !!
cumbas (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
the proof that Our Union does not like and not made fear any people which would like to remain alone the Masters of the world
But not idiots fanatic anti-European in the world !!
Europe will reappear such the Phoenix :-)
And by our TRUE Union (the current is not enought !!), a Federal or Confederal UNION, we will become again what we were and what we would never have of giving up with the others if one had not unceasingly do wars between us brothers European !! |
